Grants Pass Poor Morals
Are there Morals in Grants Pass, Oregon
Maybe (such as the church I attend), but the community as a whole it sure appears doubtful.
I wrote a shorter version of this post to the Grants Pass Daily Courier,
I have written in the past on how I was blown off by our Representatives when trying to appeal to be turned down for Food Stamps, even though my combined income was well under the amount to qualify, but because I am self employed they use a strange account method that in any business school would get an ‘F’.
I am self employed in part so that I can take of my family better since my son is autistic and my daughter needs counseling do to a horrible event that forced me to move in the first place (see my about me page: Carl Strohmeyer, my biography).
Besides trying to get by in a business that gets no community support I collect recyclables, often much of which is found in the street as it is worthless in Oregon, but I take it to CA. I also used to collect Newspaper until the commodities market collapsed for it after the election.
As of writing this, I have severely criticized for doing this, often by local business including a very evil person that worked at the Shell Station at the top of 7th, the comments he & his pal made showed he new nothing about me and his pal was even more smug and evil in his comments including his smug laugh as the Shell station owner treated me like something less than human.
Similar comments have been made;
*A guy following after me telling my loser life story as he saw it (this was at the 76 station on Rogue River Highway).
*A manager at Rays Food Place (on Williams Highway) lied and was extremely rude to me as well.
*A manager at the Safeway on G Street as well treating me with total disrespect and lying as well about why I cannot collect TRASH (I might note that the Safeway on Williams Highway is staffed by good people and I would recommend that all honorable persons visit this Safeway.
This Shell Station incident and his actions showed just how evil many people are and how this community really could care less for many of its citizens. Yes this may be a blanket statement, but then how come I can never get a phone call or email returned by my representatives or the managers at the local food stamps office implying that maybe a real job is in order and other disinterested comments that shows a despicable callousness for those who are truly working to improve themselves in this community.
Before I had to move here to be near my sister for my wife and daughter's well being I was collecting recyclables as a way to make a dent on the $80,000 in debt that my wife and the person who took advantage of her during a nervous breakdown (as well as medical bills). I ended up with a route early in the morning before I started my regular job; however the response was VERY DIFFERENT THAN HERE IN GRANTS PASS!
One business (an Arco Station) in LA wonder where I was when I did not come around a few times because as they KNEW that I cleaned up trash, and that not only did they have to have their dumpster picked up one lass time per week, I cleaned up as I moved around.
The same for a machine shop where many would drink and make a mess after hours, I would again be extracting recyclables while leaving their lot cleaner.
These businesses often invited me in for coffee and even tipped me for this as well (they also showed interest in why I had to do this); but then they respected me for who I was and knew this did not mean that I was not a failure, in fact they often asked about my Aquarium Research and business into subjects such as Sponge Filters, lighting and more.
YET GRANTS PASS does not get this and many of its citizens would rather look the other way ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing").
This is so sad when one considers;
*I could have left my wife, yet I stood by her after all that happened;
*I could have left many creditors holding the bag, but choose not to
*I could have choose sell off my business and declare bankruptcy of my old business, but I choose not to so as to preserve jobs of loyal employees
*I could have not spent the time with my family they need (since I do the cooking and much of the "running" around for them"), especially my autistic son or my daughter (for which I also pay for counseling and more).
*I could have chosen to stay the course in my flight training in the 1990s (I already achieved my Multi-Engine License and was working on my commercial), but I could see early on that my wife could not cope with the issues of parenthood (this is NOT a dis on her either, just who she is/was), so I ended my training and quite honestly this is the ONLY TIME IN MY LIFE I FELT TRULY RESPECTED AND ACCEPTED FOR HOW I AM, MY REAL TALENTS, ETC., yet I let it go.
*I left a business behind that although it was difficult in many ways, it paid the bills and I was respected by most my customers to work in a Candy factory where I was mopping floors, doing many jobs that most would expect to do as a teenager, all the while finding out how little many thought of me.
There is much more I could add to the above, yet this community chooses to believe MANY false rumors about me, some about what brought me here, other rumors about my business talents, and others that are so despicable I will not repeat here.
SO SAD GRANTS PASS!!!!!!
If this community had any pride, or any regard for a person just trying to honestly get by & do what is right, which for me includes a debt that I did not even incur (I still owe $36,000), but was from the person who took advantage of my wife during a mental break down and harmed my daughter for which she still has not recovered, they would boycott businesses such as this Shell Station or The North Safeway and let them know why or better ask them why they are so despicable to members of the community that are working hard (14 hours a day in my case) to take care of their family. The Rays on the South side is of a similar wrong mind set.
I am not clear why work ethic is so disrespected in Grants Pass, but it certainly seems to be the case!!!
See this post for how Evangelicals have lost their way IMO:
Do Evangelicals represent the Church of Jesus?
HOWEVER, ON A POSITIVE NOTE, In a more recent event (Feb. 2009), where more lies came out, and my daughter was very distraught due to emotional struggles many due to the past events in LA), there was a positive outpouring from our current church (Bethany Presbyterian), some friends here and many friends and business contacts (both online and even from LA) where they stood up in court or sent testimonials as to the truth of who I am, my family and much, much more.
So for this I must say that I am very grateful, as this has really shown me God’s hand in this and that there are positives here in Grants Pass.
See this article:
See this post for how Evangelicals have lost their way IMO:
God’s Answers To My Prayers
Maybe (such as the church I attend), but the community as a whole it sure appears doubtful.
I wrote a shorter version of this post to the Grants Pass Daily Courier,
I have written in the past on how I was blown off by our Representatives when trying to appeal to be turned down for Food Stamps, even though my combined income was well under the amount to qualify, but because I am self employed they use a strange account method that in any business school would get an ‘F’.
I am self employed in part so that I can take of my family better since my son is autistic and my daughter needs counseling do to a horrible event that forced me to move in the first place (see my about me page: Carl Strohmeyer, my biography).
Besides trying to get by in a business that gets no community support I collect recyclables, often much of which is found in the street as it is worthless in Oregon, but I take it to CA. I also used to collect Newspaper until the commodities market collapsed for it after the election.
As of writing this, I have severely criticized for doing this, often by local business including a very evil person that worked at the Shell Station at the top of 7th, the comments he & his pal made showed he new nothing about me and his pal was even more smug and evil in his comments including his smug laugh as the Shell station owner treated me like something less than human.
Similar comments have been made;
*A guy following after me telling my loser life story as he saw it (this was at the 76 station on Rogue River Highway).
*A manager at Rays Food Place (on Williams Highway) lied and was extremely rude to me as well.
*A manager at the Safeway on G Street as well treating me with total disrespect and lying as well about why I cannot collect TRASH (I might note that the Safeway on Williams Highway is staffed by good people and I would recommend that all honorable persons visit this Safeway.
This Shell Station incident and his actions showed just how evil many people are and how this community really could care less for many of its citizens. Yes this may be a blanket statement, but then how come I can never get a phone call or email returned by my representatives or the managers at the local food stamps office implying that maybe a real job is in order and other disinterested comments that shows a despicable callousness for those who are truly working to improve themselves in this community.
Before I had to move here to be near my sister for my wife and daughter's well being I was collecting recyclables as a way to make a dent on the $80,000 in debt that my wife and the person who took advantage of her during a nervous breakdown (as well as medical bills). I ended up with a route early in the morning before I started my regular job; however the response was VERY DIFFERENT THAN HERE IN GRANTS PASS!
One business (an Arco Station) in LA wonder where I was when I did not come around a few times because as they KNEW that I cleaned up trash, and that not only did they have to have their dumpster picked up one lass time per week, I cleaned up as I moved around.
The same for a machine shop where many would drink and make a mess after hours, I would again be extracting recyclables while leaving their lot cleaner.
These businesses often invited me in for coffee and even tipped me for this as well (they also showed interest in why I had to do this); but then they respected me for who I was and knew this did not mean that I was not a failure, in fact they often asked about my Aquarium Research and business into subjects such as Sponge Filters, lighting and more.
YET GRANTS PASS does not get this and many of its citizens would rather look the other way ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing").
This is so sad when one considers;
*I could have left my wife, yet I stood by her after all that happened;
*I could have left many creditors holding the bag, but choose not to
*I could have choose sell off my business and declare bankruptcy of my old business, but I choose not to so as to preserve jobs of loyal employees
*I could have not spent the time with my family they need (since I do the cooking and much of the "running" around for them"), especially my autistic son or my daughter (for which I also pay for counseling and more).
*I could have chosen to stay the course in my flight training in the 1990s (I already achieved my Multi-Engine License and was working on my commercial), but I could see early on that my wife could not cope with the issues of parenthood (this is NOT a dis on her either, just who she is/was), so I ended my training and quite honestly this is the ONLY TIME IN MY LIFE I FELT TRULY RESPECTED AND ACCEPTED FOR HOW I AM, MY REAL TALENTS, ETC., yet I let it go.
*I left a business behind that although it was difficult in many ways, it paid the bills and I was respected by most my customers to work in a Candy factory where I was mopping floors, doing many jobs that most would expect to do as a teenager, all the while finding out how little many thought of me.
There is much more I could add to the above, yet this community chooses to believe MANY false rumors about me, some about what brought me here, other rumors about my business talents, and others that are so despicable I will not repeat here.
SO SAD GRANTS PASS!!!!!!
If this community had any pride, or any regard for a person just trying to honestly get by & do what is right, which for me includes a debt that I did not even incur (I still owe $36,000), but was from the person who took advantage of my wife during a mental break down and harmed my daughter for which she still has not recovered, they would boycott businesses such as this Shell Station or The North Safeway and let them know why or better ask them why they are so despicable to members of the community that are working hard (14 hours a day in my case) to take care of their family. The Rays on the South side is of a similar wrong mind set.
I am not clear why work ethic is so disrespected in Grants Pass, but it certainly seems to be the case!!!
See this post for how Evangelicals have lost their way IMO:
Do Evangelicals represent the Church of Jesus?
HOWEVER, ON A POSITIVE NOTE, In a more recent event (Feb. 2009), where more lies came out, and my daughter was very distraught due to emotional struggles many due to the past events in LA), there was a positive outpouring from our current church (Bethany Presbyterian), some friends here and many friends and business contacts (both online and even from LA) where they stood up in court or sent testimonials as to the truth of who I am, my family and much, much more.
So for this I must say that I am very grateful, as this has really shown me God’s hand in this and that there are positives here in Grants Pass.
See this article:
See this post for how Evangelicals have lost their way IMO:
God’s Answers To My Prayers



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2 Comments:
Wow amazing story!
I am moving to GP with my autistic child mom lost it I hope my experience is better and I will pray that yours improves!
God Bless you you are extremely strong!
ST
Thank you for your kind sentiments!
I should add that things got drastically worse for my family (in part due to the emotional damage my daughter suffered).
However my church family here in Grants Pass was there for me & my family (Bethany Presbyterian).
While the business community is not real friendly or open minded from my experience, especially Rays Food Place (Williams Hwy), Safeway 6th St), Shell (north 7th), & more; there are DEFINITELY good people here.
I would just avoid many of these businesses or the very corrupt DHS.
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